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The KelTec P17 is the cheapest trainer-style .22 pistol on the market. But unlike most guns in its price range, it might not be a complete steaming pile of refuse.
We’re taking a detailed look at the P17’s reliability, accuracy, features, and quirks to see whether this lightweight, 17-shot rimfire pistol lives up to the hype. Is it a legitimate bargain, or just another weird KelTec range toy?
Let’s look at what we’ve got here. KelTec released the P17 in 2019. It was notable for having 16-round magazines when almost every other .22 topped out at 10 rounds. But earlier that year, Taurus had released the TX-22, also with 16-round mags, and several other .22 trainers have since come out with similar capacities.
A more distinctive feature might be the weight. It’s only 11.6 ounces empty, 14 and a half fully loaded. That’s lighter than most pocket pistols, despite being closer in size to a compact. It’s got a 3.8-inch barrel and a width of just 9/10 of an inch.
The barrel is threaded and it comes with a thread extender for standard 1/2×28 suppressors. The front sight is a green fiber optic and in the rear we have a black serrated sight adjustable for windage and elevation.
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A Civil Right is a Civil Right -- Even If You
I will guarantee you that in every city of 100,000 population or more there are multiple locations responsible for the majority of crime in that city. There are multiple locations responsible for more deaths via drug overdose (“Interests of Public Safety”), and more deaths via drug turf wars than all of O’Keefe’s firearms put together.
I mean, if “the interests of public safety” are worth a 24-hour “minor, temporary inconvenience” suspension of James O’Keefe’s 2nd Amendment civil rights, then surely “the interests of public safety” are worth a 24-hour “minor, temporary inconvenience” suspension of someone’s 4th Amendment civil rights, right?
See how this works? Red Flag laws is a road we do not want to go down. Civil rights are civil rights, and we don’t get to treat one as sacrosanct, and another as inconvenient. If one requires probable cause to be suspended, than they all require probable cause to be suspended.
Speaking of Red Flag Laws – How About this Version
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Any Congresscritter says, or does, something unConstitutional anyone should be able to file a Red Flag violation and have that politician's powers to write bills, attend sessions of Congress, vote, draw a taxpayer-funded paycheque, live in a mansion in Washington DC, enjoy tax-payer-funded benefits, or anything else tied to the privilege of being a Congresscritter immediately suspended.
There would be a hearing within fourteen days before a judge in their home district, where the Representative or Senator would be given the opportunity to show where in the Constitution what they said, or the law they proposed, or the action they did, was explicitly authorised, and if they can show that, their privileges to all the goodies of being an elected representative of the People would be restored.
If they can't, then they can sit at home for a year and twiddle their thumbs. Not allowed into the Capitol, no drawing a paycheque, no voting, no proposing bills, nothing added to their pension funds, no taxpayer-funded healthcare, zip, zero, NADA to do with being an elected official.
Speaking of how the legal system can screw over firearms owners who have broken no law: There are multiple articles concerning former sailor Tate Adamiak’s case in addition to the one below at the GunWriter website.
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A Retro Python: The Pietta Blacktooth Revolver
The .357 Mag.-chambered Blacktooth is a replica of a first-generation Colt Python. The Python was originally introduced in 1955 and quickly became regarded as the world’s premiere double-action revolver. As costs to produce the hand-built revolver became prohibitive, the company discontinued the model in 2005. While they brought out a new version of the Python in 2020, it had updates that distinguished it from the original.
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Tate Adamiak to receive 50 days of ‘Diesel Therapy’ punishment
“I was told to pack up and that I was going to get moved,” he said Wednesday. “It’s Diesel Therapy. This is exactly what I was afraid of.”
The Federal Bureau of Prisons has never treated inmates well. One of the methods they use to mistreat inmates is by driving them around in a prison van for weeks or even months on end, which the inmates and even the guards call “Diesel Therapy.”
It prevents the inmates from contacting their friends, family and the occasional reporter. Most worrisome, the inmates are kept completely out of touch with their defense attorneys. They also miss meals, showers, sleep and are unable to work on their criminal cases.
Adamiak, who is serving a 20-year sentence at FCI Fort Dix in New Jersey for crimes he never committed, must appear for a hearing next month in federal court in Norfolk, Virginia. It does not take 50 days to drive from his New Jersey prison to any courtroom in Virginia.
The Armed Attorneys recently did a video discussion concerning Adamiak's case: SCOTUS Watch: 20 Years in Prison for Cut Up Metal
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Competition Selects for What It Rewards
This in-depth article on martial arts discusses how competition affected the evolution and development of martial arts over time. A close parallel are the developments within pistol competitions following the introduction of IPSC, USPSA, IDPA and how they evolved over time and affected equipment design.
Recently, the West Point Combatives Team competed against the Navy Jiu-Jitsu Team under submission-only rules associated with Eddie Bravo.
There were highly skilled fighters on both sides. That should be said up front. The technical level was high, the pace was aggressive, and the athletes were committed to finishing fights. And, for the record, Army won, again. ;-) yeah.
But that’s not the interesting part. What stood out was how both teams fought.
Across the matches, there was a consistent pattern: aggressive pursuit of submissions, but relatively little emphasis on controlling the opponent. Positions that are traditionally considered dominant in a fight, because they allow you to strike, disengage, or impose damage, were often passed through or abandoned in favor of immediate submission attempts.
From within the rule set, this made sense.
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Knives are tools. To perform to their full potential, they must be maintained properly. This is particularly true of folding knives, which are, by nature, mechanical devices. Like any other machine, if you want them to function correctly, you need to maintain them well. Fortunately, with a little knowledge and some simple tools, knife maintenance is relatively easy.
One of the most important things you can do to keep any knife functioning well is to keep it clean. Most knives are meant to be used, and that use can often expose them to dirt, adhesives, animal blood, and a variety of other substances. Left in contact with the blade for prolonged periods, these substances can promote corrosion or dry on the blade, making them more difficult to remove. As such, whenever possible, wipe your knife clean as soon as possible after use.
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Mossberg 590R Shotgun Review: 6+1 Capacity with a Rotary Safety
Traditional shotgun safeties never really fit quite right on tactical, pistol-grip scatterguns. That’s why Mossberg gave its tube-fed, pump-action 590R shotguns a helping hand with ambidextrous rotary safeties that are both ergonomic and familiar to anyone who has shot an AR-15 rifle.
However, that’s hardly the only enhancement the company made to its new 590R shotguns. Here’s a closer look at all the improved features, along with our top takeaways, after putting 300 shells through the 590R during live-fire testing.
Quick Summary: Mossberg’s rotary safety makes the 590R much easier to shoot with a vertical pistol grip than similar tactical shotguns. The safety is a bit undersized, but it’s a big improvement, along with upgrades to the action release, stock, and heat shield.
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LeMat Revolver – Before The Judge
Some were made by John Krider of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, in 1859, including the first 250 prototypes. It is estimated that 2,900 were produced in Liège, Belgium, and Paris, France. The European-made pistols were shipped through Birmingham, England. For the collectors out there, they were indeed stamped.
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